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Panna - the saga continues

  Thank you for all the good suggestions and resources, on- and off-line. There is no panna in my future (yet), but my ideas a little clearer. Here is what I found in my pursuit of panna cotta.

Ingredients: there are two kinds of panna: "panna fresca" and "panna da cucina". Panna da cucina is very dense, has a rather long expiration date, and is used in non-dessert dishes such as pasta. Panna fresca is less dense, although very high in fat content, can be whipped, and is exactly what's required to make panna cotta.
As for possible substitutes, I've been warned by those in the know against trying to use heavy cream (much lighter than panna, available in the US) or the British "double cream" (much denser and closer to cheese than panna) or even crème fraiche (more acidic).

Availability: Even with all the help I received from you, I cannot find panna fresca. So far, I have only been able to find panna da cucina. Note to self: remind Ben that we need to move to Italy… or close enough that foraging is less of a pain.

Recipes: the older recipes — predating my move to California, fifteen years ago — did not require the use of gelatin. All the recent recipes do, at least the ones I found in books, websites, blogs and talking to Italian friends, including one who is active in the Slow Food movement. Using gelatin does not appeal to me. It may be a combination of what those sheets of gelatin look like and what they used to be called in Italy: colla di pesce (fish glue). Whatever the reason, I find the idea slightly distasteful.

So, what next?

I think I'm ready to give up on the whole panna cotta thing. Sorry, folks. I know a couple of you were really eager to hear that I found the perfect panna and the perfect recipe and that I was going to share it all. Alas, not this time. However, I do want to make some kind of dessert for my little Christmas party and most likely it'll be something Italian so… stay tuned.

Comments

http://chocolateandzucchini.com/archives/2005/05/strawberry_panna_cotta.php
Instead of gelatin this uses Agar agar. I'll check my Italian dessert book tonight when I get home. :)

Would British clotted cream not work? Hmmmm, whatever you decide on will be delicious, I'm sure!

I feel for you! I gave up cooking Malaysian/Indonesian/etc. dishes long ago when I couldn't find the ingredients.

Maybe you'll start searching earlier, next year?

I remember there's an Italian market in Culver City called Sorrento, Francesca. You may want to give them a call. It happened to be near one of my freelance jobs, and I'd go in there and buy sweets every now and then.

I understand your feeling. You don't want to compromise over a special desert for Christmas Day. I've lived abroad for over ten years and I'm now used to cooking Western-looking-Japanese foods with substitutions. However for the New Year Day, I don't want to cook special foods with any substitutions at all.

I'll stay tuned here!

Phooey! I really thought people living here in Arkansas were the only ones who suffered from lack of ingredient availability. That is really a bummer when you can't find them even in L.A.

I'll bet whatever dessert you make will be wonderful so I look forward to hearing all about it.

Would mixing double cream with heavy whipping cream maybe give you the right consistency/amount of fat?

I think the gelatin is to make up for the decreased amount of fat, since most recipes I've seen use heavy whipping cream, not panna. The decreased fat would make it less likely to set up well and the gelatin would combat that.

See, my husband is always trying to tempt me into moving to LA (where he is from.) But if you can't even get panna fresca there that is another strike against the place. I'll bet it would be possible to find in NYC...